those who don’t know… Super Junior should have won the DaeSang of 2010 – uksujusid Source: HERE – Written by: 곧잉어
First of all, I like to make sure this is all writen by fan of Super Junior.
The first and the only intention of this is asking appropriate apology and compensation to Golden Disk Awards 2010 according to some doubtful points brougth up about award standard, so hopefully there will not be any misunderstanding or unpleasant dispute following.
“Few suspicions about GDA”
First, about their judging standard for wineers.
GDA select 10 team for Main Award (5 for Disk Award, 5 for Digital Award) based on their sales volume of Disk and Digital source. 60% reflects the sales voume, 20% for internet vote and other 20% by judges’ evaluation. The sales volume of Disk is based on data from domestic distribution company and wholesale/retail markets. The sales volume of Digital source is total number of download / BGM from famouse online digital source websites. A team who has the highest outcome for each Disk and Digital will win the Grand prize.
▶ Part of an article ‘Who will be next winner of 2010 GDA’ by ran@joongang.co.kr
The standard for ” Ceci popular award” is not specified clearly. But in general, its been known that it is 100% result of popular vote. No matter what, since it is called ‘The poplular Award’, it is justified that it should reflect only poputer vote 100%.
1, Yesung(Super Junior) – It has to be you (Digital Awards)
This song got the most vote and was ranked no. 1 of the vote for Digital Award. This is the picture of state of vote on 2010/12/08 the day of GDA.
If you look closely and compare the percentage of first two (Yesung, LeeSeungGi) and others who follows next, they are two intense competition while others have relatively low numbers.
However, in GDA 2010, there were five winners for this Award, LeeSeungGi, Miss A, IU, CNBLUE and 2AM. However when you look at their results of vote, its only Lee:43.9%, Miss A: 0.1%, IU: 0.1%, CNBLUE 0.6% and 2AM: 1,7%.
They are saying the vote result if only 20% for selection so lets see the sales volume which must be 60%. This is comparison between Yesung and Lee who were keen competitor and the winner.
This is the chart from Music Bank, there is “Yesung-It has to be you” on no.4 and no LeeSeungki.
This is chart of Mobile ringtones from 2009/11/30 to 2010/11/30. “Yesung-It has to be you” is on no.15. You can see other LeeSeungGi’s song on the chart (no.24) but no “Love taught me to drink” which was the one he got the prize with.
This is the chart of Mobile Ring back tone from 2009/11/30 to 2010/11/21. “Yesung-It has to be you” is on no.4 while LeeSeungGi is on 10ths.
This is chart of evaluation for the first half year 2010. “Yesung-It has to be you” is on no.12 while “LeeSuengGi-Love taught me to drink” is on no.27.
If you see all these data, Yesung who did not get the Digital award was actually more qualified than Lee who won. This is only the comparison of two who were very keen competitor in the popular vote. I apologize to fans of Lee for comparing these two, but it comes to the front that there was no reason for Yesung not to win.
2. Ceci Popular Award.
Like I said earlier, there is nowhere criteria for the Popular award is specified. However, since this is ‘The Popular’ award to judge how popular they are to the people. It should reflect result of popular vote 100%. Last year, It went to SHINee and Super Junior who were #1 and #2 of the popular vote.
The gap between #2, SuperJunior and #3 SNSD was also very visible.
You can see the gap between those two is almost 16%.
Super Junior actually got MSN Asia Popular Award earlier of the ceremony. However, If you look at the result of vote for MSN Asia Popular Award, the gap between Super Junior and the other teams were just too huge and obvious to anyone else would win the prize but them.
And also, there is no statement saying “You can not win both Ceci Popular Award and MSN Asia Popular Award” or ” You can not win Ceci Poupular Award if you already won the MSN Asia Popular Award” on their website or press release.
This vote was done without distinction of Male/Female, and also there is no statement saying it will be one Male Group and one Female Group to be winners. Also, for GDA 2009 last year, two winners were SHINee and Super Junior, both male group so there is actualy no explanation for giving the prize to SNSD instead of Super Junior.
For the last but definitely not the least, this popular vote actually CHARGE the money for voting. 300won per ARS phonecall vote (app. 25 cents for US dollars) and 500won (app. 40cents) for Wireless vote.
Since it also relates to actually money problem, it could be developed as a lawsuit in the future.
(Here is the example of legal statement that could be made out of this.)
There is money owed to us and GDA since we payed for certain votes for Popular award. GDA, the debtor, actually has obligation to award the Ceci Popular award. Also, since we became consumer by paying certain price, we have right to know. We were supposed to be noticed before that MSN Asia Popular Award and Ceci Popular Award cannot be awarded together. It is a violation of our right to know since we have never got any notice. Furthermore, even though we have good reason to win it because of GDA’s mistake, it creates bad impression about Super Junior to the public saying they are not worth to win the Popular Prize. And it also creates defamation on both Super Junior and us. (written by 온새미로 ‘13정수헬러’
http://cafe.daum.net/manful24/)
Therefore, it all explains that there was no reason for Super Junior not to get “Ceci Popular Award” , how it actually damaged fans financialy and how it actually makes legal relationship between fans and GDA.
3. Disk Award Grand Prize
Disk Award Grand Prize went to SNSD for GDA 2010. As I mentioned earlier, Golden Disk Disk Award is 60% of sales volume, 20% of popular vote and 20% of judges’ decisions.
First, let’s look at the result of Popular Vote
As you see, Super Junior outspaced SNSD by 11.6%.
Now, let’s compare the sales volume for two of their disk. This is article saying there is major chance that Super Junior will win the GDA Disk Grand Prize for two years in a row.
*Translation
There are major chance for Super Junior to win GDA Disk Grand Prize for two years in a row.
The Golden Disk Award, which made to be 25th years by now, select their winners according to sales volume of Disk and Digital source. It seems like Super Junior who was the winner of GDA 2009 has the most selling record this year by far too.
According to Hanteo chart, Super Junior 4th Album ‘BONAMANA’ version A has been sold 131,946 disk between 2010/01/01 to 2010/12/08 and ranked as No.1. There is SNSD whose 2nd Album ‘Oh!’ is on No.2 but there aer 8,000 disk difference between ‘Oh!’ and ‘BONAMANA’. This time the repackage album will be also counted for the GDA. According to the chart, repackage of Super Junior 4th has been sold 45,412 disks and repackage of SNSD 2nd has been sold 56,543 disks. Actually Super Junior’s 4th Album was also released as v.2 which has been sold 48,368 disks.
GDA annouced ‘Hoot’ by SNSD relased on October has been sold 91,544 disks but it will not be conunted since it was not on the chart when nominees were selected.
In GDA, there is also popular vote part which is 20%. At this point, Super Junior is voted 34.5% and ranked as no.1 while SNSD is voted 22.9% as no.2. However, it is very clear that gap is more than 10% and make Super Junior outspaced SNSD by 11.6%.
Super Junior won Disk Grand Prize at GDA 2009, last year.
There are many other evidence that is obvious. This is the actual chart from Hanteo data base. You can see clearly that Super Junior sold much more disks than SNSD.
There are many arguments about repackage album and album version B, but there is not clear specification on any page of GDA website or press realease. BONAMANA version A and B has exactelly same songs listed so actually it is very hard to tell that they are two seperate album. And as you read from the article, SNSD’s latest single ‘Hoot; was not counted for the award.
However, we could find this article after the Award ceremony.
*Translation SNSD and 2AM got the honor of winning GDA grand prizes. On December 12th, at the 25th Golden Disk Award held in Korea University, SNSD won the Disk Award Grand prize and 2AM won the Digital Award Grand prize. SNSD won the prize for their songs ‘Oh!’ and ‘Hoot’ and 2AM won it with ‘Even if i die…’, ‘You wouldn’t answer..’ and ‘Like Grazy’. Therefore, SNSD got the double crown from last year, 2AM who was the first nominee for GDA acutally won the Grand Prize.
▶ Part of an article by khj@etoday.co.kr.
First of all, the biggest problem is that GDA never inform exactelly which album is being counted for the prize even though they have been overemphasize their fairness on selecting winners.
It means they actually have very ambiguous standard which could be changed anytime for any intension. If GDA informed this clearly and early, there would be no arguments about this and no cofusion between even reporters to write different articles.
We actually also found this on some website..
*translation It is about the judges’ point for the prize which is 20% out of 100. According to this, it is saying SNSD is selected as winner by judges through 3 levels of evaluation because of being as icon of Korean pop
and efforts to enhance the nation’s status for being great success over japan.
However, Super Junior’s popularity and influence throughout oversea easily exceed SNSD on 2010. Even though there was no actual activity or public appear, they already own huge number of fans in Japan and leads Super Junior – K.R.Y concert in Japan. They has been also ranked as no.1 in not only Korea, Japan and China but also all around Asia such as Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore etc. Also it was very surprising to fans to see they were very popular in Brazil and Arab States with no public appear or promotion at all.
As you see Super Junior already dominate the market world wide over Asia. Therefore, It is hard to understand why judges would evaluate the value of Super Junior less then SNSD.
(+Add) We heard this was not actually from the the judge, but we still want to say, it is true that SNSD has been very succesful over the year, but Super Junior was also very successful or even more. So We are saying, it is very hard to understand, the judges decision could be the reason for them not winning the Grand prize even though we all do not know exactelly how judges tought.
4. for the Last, the reaction of other Musicians in the ceremony.
After the break, Super Junior didnt come back to the hall until the Popular Award. Also, right before the Grand Prize award, their manager whispherd something to Leeteuk and other Members. After this secret whispers, it was very hard to tell their face was happy and their face all frozen really fast. Makes us wonder.. what was that whispher all about?
After SNSD went up the stage for the prize, other musicians come to Super Junior, not SNSD, and hugged them. We all know Super Junior has lots of friends but still it is weird that everyone hugged Super Junior while there is actually winner on the stage.
For the last, right before the announcement for the Grand Prize, there was applause and cheer shouting Super Junior from the audience. When members heard it, they didnt seem happy at all.. We all wonder why..
These are all very suspicious and different actions and situation compare to other Award ceremony. However, these reaction things are only assumption so we will not talk about it too much.
For ending, I like to cite the Golden Disk Award website, saying..
‘Digital Award’ is the award to let people know which musician was the most loved through out the whole year to meet the trends of the times where Digital source market is expanding as massive number of people prefers it. We select winners by fair evaluation according to data provided by reading company that has pure public confidence. However, because of those reasons and proofs mentioned above (1,2,3), we question that Golden Disk actually select the winners by FAIR evaluation. So, us, E.L.F (Super Junior Fan Club) demands GDA to reveal the exact standard for each award and prize to the public and reward financial damage especially for Ceci Popular Award votes.
E.L.F 슈랑이☆
This is not just some fans whining
According to the data we collected, GDA almost swindle fans out of their money. We all know it is once in a year ceremony. People will forget about it and one year later, we will be same fan voting for the same thing, so you might wonder what the big deal about it is However, if there will be no action taken by GDA even after we spread this evidences and explanation through we are ready to cope strictly and legally with this matter in regard to right of voters, viewers and all the musicians who attended.
